No it is bad.

There is a major difference between WH income and 0.0 income.

If I get jumped in a Sanctum, I at least got bounties paid for all of my activity up until that point. (whatever the % is based on an ESS etc).

In WH space I make 0 isk running WH sites. (risk involved).
In fact I make 0 isk collecting loot and salvaging (risk involved).

In fact in order to make ANY isk I have to:

1. Run a site
2. Loot salvage a site
3. Safely store the loot (there is a risk however small of getting evicted)
4. Transport the loot through WH space
5. transport the loot thru k-space to a station for sale.

each step of the way has enough risk just to make the isk.

So no WH ESS is bad. Turn the blue loot into bounties maybe, but otherwise no.

This, definitely would need to go in line with the fix.
Also scaling the delay ie. C1 no delay, C6 big delay.
Also mass dependant, ie one frig goes through and sig is still not visible for x time depending on WH class,three cruisers go through and it immediately shows up, again mass and time delay dependant on WH class.

There are some things this change can improve, but it will be all in the details as to not to spoil the fun for either groups of players.

I doubt if any of the complicated mechanisms a lot of players outlined above have a hope of ever being implemented. It'll turn out that a wormhole is actually a special case of some other object, doesn't have any of the properties needed to implement the necessary statistics, and adding in all the dependencies would be half a POS-rewrite worth of code.

Right, lots of thoughts in this thread already. One of my favorites:



I absolutely think that the new sigs should not show up on the overlay, and I would be fine with a 30 - 45 second delay before the K162 is probable - time for the scout who scanned down the named side to warp to it, jump through, and hold their cloak. Any longer than that (the aforementioned 5 mins +/- 2 that someone brought up, or the 15 min someone said, or the 20 minutes it'd take for the sig to propagate at .1 AU/s across a 120 AU system) and things tilt far too far in favor of the people who opened the hole.

This will affect more than just the 'targeted' cap escalation fleets - especially if the delay is higher (!) for a bigger threat, like a larger hole.

And here lies one telltale issue.

Something like this is going to make it far more dangerous to make isk in WH space. That being said while WH income is good, it really doesn't get "great" until C5+

C1-C4 income can get pretty decent, but when you factor in all of the "extra" stuff the isk/hr really isn't amazing. You have the logistics/cost of a POS. You have the logistics of getting loot to market, manually splitting isk between members (since it isn't bounty based). You have lots of static rolling to hope to keep isk flowing vs respawning 0.0 anoms and unlimited missions.

Bottom line is something this drastic will likely empty out much of C1-C4 space. I roam around a fair amount and it is already empty enough. I want more groups to come live in WH space, not fewer.

What I still don't get is what is the goal? I don't recall people really complaining hard about this issue until the overlay came about. So fix the overlay issue. Either disable it in WH space or make it scan at such a low frequency it is not viable as a passive intel tool. Why is there suddenly a need to swing the pendulum farther?